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Dr Happy	Posted - 2005.12.29 00:56:00 - [1] You really picked a bad subject to do this
Dr Happy	Posted - 2005.12.29 01:14:00 - [2] You also decide to help an allaince that has almsot no chance of surviving in 0.0. I could go into more but I wont
Dr Happy	Posted - 2005.12.29 01:17:00 - [3] Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Excellent move ISS, people who KOS everyone who enters their space need to be put down. I don't see this as abandoning neutrality since they would shoot you anyway. see you don't have all the info now do you? do resaerch learn what actually is going on and don't take one source as the know all end all.
Dr Happy	Posted - 2005.12.29 01:26:00 - [4] Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Edited by: Tyrrax Thorrk on 29/12/2005 01:23:08 I've dealt with CCC too, I know their attitude in the area, I also know IAC's and I know how ISS operate. I do know what I'm talking about, ISS is in the right here. IAC unlike CCC, have no interest in closing the space, they don't shoot neutrals on sight and they don't try to blackmail people into helping them against their enemies. CCC Does not kos on sight they ask you to leave a few times. It is hard to Patrol anough to allow poepel in and keep pirates out so for safety reasion no one that isn't know is let in. there are a few corp allowed into ccc space like mom and pop and archo corperations
Dr Happy	Posted - 2005.12.29 01:29:00 - [5] Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists i fail to see this as a major change for iss, but maybe a surprise will strike. They want to have an outpost in the area that iac is trying to take over
Dr Happy	Posted - 2005.12.29 02:03:00 - [6] Originally by: Count TaSessine This post is not representative of ISS. We have not abandoned the neutral stance on which the ISS Charter is built on. The conflict between IAC and CCC is well known to us since it is ongoing in Catch. CCC is shooting at ISS, IAC is not. This does not mean we support one or the other, only that we actively defend against CCC as per the ISS Charter. Place a pos in someones territory without permission and they tend to do that
Dr Happy	Posted - 2005.12.29 02:36:00 - [7] Originally by: Dammar Originally by: Count TaSessine This post is not representative of ISS. We have not abandoned the neutral stance on which the ISS Charter is built on. The conflict between IAC and CCC is well known to us since it is ongoing in Catch. CCC is shooting at ISS, IAC is not. This does not mean we support one or the other, only that we actively defend against CCC as per the ISS Charter. ISS got caught setting up a POS in our space despite being told not to. ISSN now frequently comes into CCC space looking for fights and it is CCC that defends itself, NOT the other way around. We don't camp our gates unless we feel threatened and have little to no reason to go into ISS space. Seriously, we have enough problems without ISS being involved at all, and it really makes me wonder what their motives really are. We wanted to be neutral with ISS, we really did, and even tho I have no official standing of any sort in my corp/alliance, I can say with absolute certainty that if ISS were to agree to be neutral towards CCC, we would glady agree. Just don't say you are neutral to us now, because that simply isn't the case. As CCC's diplomate I would say yes
Dr Happy	Posted - 2005.12.29 03:32:00 - [8] Originally by: Berneh Originally by: Dammar Originally by: Count TaSessine This post is not representative of ISS. We have not abandoned the neutral stance on which the ISS Charter is built on. The conflict between IAC and CCC is well known to us since it is ongoing in Catch. CCC is shooting at ISS, IAC is not. This does not mean we support one or the other, only that we actively defend against CCC as per the ISS Charter. That is his main lol ISS got caught setting up a POS in our space despite being told not to. ISSN now frequently comes into CCC space looking for fights and it is CCC that defends itself, NOT the other way around. We don't camp our gates unless we feel threatened and have little to no reason to go into ISS space. Seriously, we have enough problems without ISS being involved at all, and it really makes me wonder what their motives really are. We wanted to be neutral with ISS, we really did, and even tho I have no official standing of any sort in my corp/alliance, I can say with absolute certainty that if ISS were to agree to be neutral towards CCC, we would glady agree. Just don't say you are neutral to us now, because that simply isn't the case. Post with your main.
Dr Happy	Posted - 2005.12.29 03:39:00 - [9] Edited by: Dr Happy on 29/12/2005 03:41:51 Originally by: Logan Williams Originally by: Count TaSessine It is not representative because I honest to god don't know what the heck Baldour is smoking at the moment. We operate like we always have done. We go about our business, defend against pirates etc. His post makes it sound like we're going to war against someone. CCC is like Sudden Death Squad alliance or VIRII or ++, all KOS to ISS because they are pirates. There not pirates but the shoot everyone they see VIRII, the last time I checked, are not pirates. Perhaps you should contact their leadership and arrange standings.
Dr Happy	Posted - 2005.12.29 04:01:00 - [10] Originally by: The Enslaver Ok, but that doesn't answer - who the hell are you? The commonwealth allaince? We are just trying to claim a small area of space and build are outpost
Dr Happy	Posted - 2005.12.30 17:12:00 - [11] Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk End result of this thread: ISS are defending themselves against people who kill anyone who enters territory they claim but can't hold. I personally would lose respect for ISS if they let people get away with podding their leader like that, rushed exit or not, maybe it is personal, but it should be personal for everyone in the alliance, not just for him. CCC aren't incompetent pvpers, but are utterly incompetent diplomats. Baldour Ngarr is a total jerk. you really have no right to talk be WE DON'T SHOOT YOU IN ARE TERRITORY ISS hasn't exactly treated us with respect either and I admit up till now are diplomance has been lacking
Dr Happy	Posted - 2005.12.30 21:56:00 - [12] Originally by: Boonaki I'm more worried about the future of ISS. Love what they've been able to do, but I could see this raising some serious issues. I think most of this is jsut a mistake at least I hope so

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